tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post2236355945902175688..comments2024-02-24T19:10:00.395+02:00Comments on Sudden Debt: Waistline IndicatorHellasioushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03564511281240682625noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-34588695332131774962008-09-26T12:55:00.000+03:002008-09-26T12:55:00.000+03:00nikedao妮可鞋岛adidasnike运动鞋nikedao妮可鞋岛adidasnike运动鞋ni...<B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">nikedao</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">妮可鞋岛</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">adidas</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">nike</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">运动鞋</A></B><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">nikedao</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">妮可鞋岛</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">adidas</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">nike</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">运动鞋</A></B><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">nikedao</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">妮可鞋岛</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">adidas</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">nike</A></B><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.nikedao.com" REL="nofollow">运动鞋</A></B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-55035897486057212532008-09-16T21:40:00.000+03:002008-09-16T21:40:00.000+03:00Yoyomo and Thai,You're both welcome at my Pacific ...Yoyomo and Thai,<BR/><BR/>You're both welcome at my Pacific NW hobbit hole if there is a Great Unraveling ;)<BR/><BR/>My retired engineer Father-in-law is slowly being recruited which is good because he has lots of time and tools. My hope is to recruit enough people that essentially all I'll have to do is pack up some board games and drive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-69430046112202534032008-09-16T09:28:00.000+03:002008-09-16T09:28:00.000+03:00LOL!!!! :-)))Dink, honestly we all will! :-)And i...LOL!!!! :-)))<BR/><BR/>Dink, honestly we all will! :-)<BR/><BR/>And if those of us who decide to stay behind to 'work with the system' make the wrong choice-- hopefully you'll spare a few calories and blankets.<BR/><BR/>:-)Thaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700253024420397221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-22996844935109375102008-09-16T09:15:00.000+03:002008-09-16T09:15:00.000+03:00Good luck Dink, whatever you decide I'll be rootin...Good luck Dink, whatever you decide I'll be rooting for you. Don't forget to squeeze in an ice cave while you're at it.yoyomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357340275250708990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-66042900231694287332008-09-16T05:14:00.000+03:002008-09-16T05:14:00.000+03:00Yoyomo,I haven't delved very deep into the subject...Yoyomo,<BR/><BR/>I haven't delved very deep into the subject, but it seems a subterraean, concrete-walled dwelling can save a lot of wasted heat so maybe the 2k propane tank would last even longer....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-47397388061804265022008-09-14T22:26:00.000+03:002008-09-14T22:26:00.000+03:00Methane exists underground for eons so I assume it...Methane exists underground for eons so I assume it would have a long shelf life unless liquefaction makes it less stable. I don't really know what the chemical difference between LNG and propane is but you can get a 2K gallon propane tank buried in your back yard and unless you use it for on-site electric generation, it would probably last you 3-5 years depending how much hot water you use and how well insulated your house is. The tank itself is good for 30-40 years depending on how good the drainage is in your yard.yoyomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357340275250708990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-91574426164026601252008-09-14T21:27:00.000+03:002008-09-14T21:27:00.000+03:00" might not be the sort of savory characters you w..." might not be the sort of savory characters you would prefer to trade with"<BR/><BR/>Exactly. I was wondering if you meant it for a cheap antiseptic or anaesthetic. Any chance you know of the hydrocarbon with the longest "shelf-life"? Propane tanks? Heat is a good thing...<BR/><BR/>"Are you REALLY sure you undertand what consciousness is?"<BR/><BR/>I stayed up until 2:30 this morning finishing that 891 page sci-fi book I mentioned (this actually becomes relevant to your question soon, I swear). The gist is that "monestaries" have been set up for scientists and the outside world is religious. This goes on for about 6,000 years with the outside civilization repeatedly self-destructing and rebuilding. Well a spaceship is sighted. There is no communication, but a geometrical design is on the ship. Somehow the genius monks have to figure this thing out. The story tends to be a young monk trying to learn from older monks who maddeningly use the Socratic method to try to get him to understand quantuum mechanics, time, parallel universes, and , of course, define what is consciousness. I am spent and looking back should not have spent a Summer weekend this way.<BR/><BR/>But in a primal, inelegant way I have a concept of consciousness because its this thing in my head that processes info. Using it I consider potential behaviors and analyze which is best. Not hurting others is a factor in the analysis. So I can extrapolate that other humans have this same ability, but choose not to include this factor. And they piss me off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-45046686099459772212008-09-14T00:34:00.000+03:002008-09-14T00:34:00.000+03:00Dink, while I can't disagree with you-- your view ...Dink, while I can't disagree with you-- your view is clearly just as vaid as mine. I can say that from my point of view, there are 3 big problems with your point:<BR/><BR/>1. Are you <I>REALLY</I> sure you undertand what consciousness is?<BR/><BR/>2. Are you <I>REALLY</I> sure consciousness makes the difference you suggest?<BR/><BR/>... All hard scientific research I have EVER read on the subject of consciousness suggests that <A HREF="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=how-does-consciousness-happen" REL="nofollow">the more you look at consciousness, the more you realize even the question itself is an endless rabbit hole</A> (and there is A LOT of research in this field because of interest in brain injury, coma, dementia and Artificial Intelligence). <BR/><BR/>3. Are you <I>REALLY</I> sure you understand which humans <A HREF="http://www.nd.edu/~networks/Publication%20Categories/01%20Review%20Articles/ScaleFree_Scientific%20Ameri%20288,%2060-69%20(2003).pdf" REL="nofollow">you are personally dependent upon in the scale free (fractal) network we all exist in</A>? <BR/><BR/>For if 5B people go, are you really sure that before you 'go native':<BR/><BR/>1. You too won't be caught up in the fall when one of the people whom (unbeknownst to you) you were actually dependent also goes?<BR/><BR/>2. One of all of the people you care most about will not also get caught in the implosion for similar reasons?<BR/><BR/>(read from page 5- An Achilles' heel)<BR/><BR/>Networks can come down VERY VERY fast when (and now I am agreeing with Hell from much earlier postings): "a fish rots from its head" or the 'hubs' come down.Thaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700253024420397221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-36939641012898328452008-09-13T22:11:00.000+03:002008-09-13T22:11:00.000+03:00Dink,The alcohol (something that keeps well w/o re...Dink,<BR/>The alcohol (something that keeps well w/o refrigeration) is for bartering but might be risky as the types of people looking for whiskey in the midst of armageddon might not be the sort of savory characters you would prefer to trade with.<BR/> <BR/>Toilet paper and tampons would probably fetch a high price from formerly pampered desperate housewives.yoyomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357340275250708990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-65192760615590902942008-09-13T20:23:00.000+03:002008-09-13T20:23:00.000+03:00"my bone marrow might not 'play fair'..."my bone marrow might not 'play fair' and give me a leukemia"<BR/><BR/>Definitely a recurring theme in where our beliefs shear. Organs are mutually dependent and not conscious. Humans are not necessarily mutually dependent (5B of us could be wiped out and the species would survive easily) and are conscious (and thus able to make choices which are unfair to each other which destroy trust and therefore hope of cooperation).<BR/><BR/>"an appropriately suggestive moniker; Whiskey & Gunpowder"<BR/><BR/>Again, Yoyomo lures me down the rabbit hole towards Kunstlerism :O<BR/>Is the alcohol needed if I don't drink?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-32644003278606388732008-09-13T18:03:00.000+03:002008-09-13T18:03:00.000+03:00Hell,Sorry to hear about your knee injury. I hope ...Hell,<BR/><BR/>Sorry to hear about your knee injury. I hope your on the road to recovery. I really enjoy reading your blogs..one of my favorite things to do while drinking a good cuppa of coffee. <BR/><BR/>Mr. & Ms. CoffeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-36425838577922622672008-09-13T08:46:00.000+03:002008-09-13T08:46:00.000+03:00This is the very nice topic that is discussed. I a...This is the very nice topic that is discussed. I am not thinking that the system is stupid.<BR/>----------------------------<BR/>Sukhjit<BR/><A HREF="http://sukhjits.cattrain.hop.clickbank.net/" REL="nofollow">Complete Cat Training!</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-62906416320541524712008-09-13T08:03:00.000+03:002008-09-13T08:03:00.000+03:00Dink,There's an econo-blog with an appropriate...Dink,<BR/>There's an econo-blog with an appropriately suggestive moniker; Whiskey & Gunpowder. <BR/><BR/>These are some of the useful suggestions I've seen:<BR/>Canned & freeze-dried edibles<BR/>Ammo (compact & divisible)<BR/>Alcohol (vodka & whiskey keep better than beer or wine)<BR/>Tools & hardware (lots of unprepared folks are going to need to learn how to rough it and you can barter your skills and supplies if advantageous)<BR/>Stable medicines <BR/>Toiletries (razor blades, soap, tooth paste & brushes, condoms, toilet paper {not so compact})<BR/><BR/>Depending on how much storage space you have you can be pretty well stocked up but you will need to pack protection preferably with a handful of reliable friends if the meltdown is severe.yoyomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357340275250708990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-45336444348048010482008-09-13T06:29:00.000+03:002008-09-13T06:29:00.000+03:00Thai- thanks for the London Banker link...Thai- thanks for the London Banker link...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-21374197618331760352008-09-13T04:45:00.000+03:002008-09-13T04:45:00.000+03:00"When the majority of participants play fair, sure..."When the majority of participants play fair, sure."<BR/><BR/>That's kind of like saying "I don't want my heart and lungs to cooperate because my bone marrow might not 'play fair' and give me a leukemia".<BR/><BR/>Remember <A HREF="http://www.peace.ca/kindergarten.htm" REL="nofollow">what your parents used to teach you</A>? They were always correct.<BR/><BR/>Think about itThaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700253024420397221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-79894653551407782522008-09-13T04:12:00.000+03:002008-09-13T04:12:00.000+03:00"Personally, I think cooperation works just as wel..."Personally, I think cooperation works just as well."<BR/><BR/>When the majority of participants play fair, sure. But it seems that all the recent moral hazards delivered by the Treasury have shown that they can not be trusted to play fair.<BR/><BR/>Also, my Mad Max subversive contemplations are still just a sort of hobby. I'm a fully cooperating, voting, taxpaying, lawn maintaining, law abiding participant under the current system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-7406045013008524112008-09-12T21:30:00.000+03:002008-09-12T21:30:00.000+03:00Dink- if it somes to a 'mad max' scenario, your co...Dink- if it somes to a 'mad max' scenario, your copper is simply too tempting a target. You'd spend huge amounts defending your stores.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I think cooperation works just as well.Thaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700253024420397221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-27919796344806376282008-09-12T21:12:00.000+03:002008-09-12T21:12:00.000+03:00Yoyomo-"did you see the NYT article on off-grid li...Yoyomo-<BR/>"did you see the NYT article on off-grid living?"<BR/><BR/>I did, thanks! Its intriguing. We recently RV'd to the North Cascades National Park and hiked to the Gorge dam hydroelectric powerhouse. The area is over a 1000 square miles of forest land, was so hard to reach that the loggers left it alone, and connects to an ajacent park in Canada. I'm sure you can guess where all this data lead my febrile mind ;) Plus its north of Hanford (nuclear waste dump which shames an otherwise ideal state). <BR/><BR/>Following the paranoid theme, I'm anti-gold because its not useful. What store of value do you consider in case of a dollar crash? I think you mentioned phosphorus once (useful, doesn't rust). Copper piping would be valuable and/or useful. Usefulness, value to others, ease of storage and ease of securing from others are all factors to consider when one is in a particularly surly mood about the US economy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-63299332903461381382008-09-12T20:06:00.000+03:002008-09-12T20:06:00.000+03:00You guys have got to read London Banker's posting ...You guys have got to read <A HREF="http://londonbanker.blogspot.com/2008/09/ring-fences-rustlers-and-global-bank.html" REL="nofollow">London Banker's</A> posting today-- brilliant.<BR/><BR/>@Goldie: Am I allowed to 'double down' on my prediction-- the rich get richer (at least most of the time)?Thaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700253024420397221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-43325960947608457582008-09-12T19:40:00.000+03:002008-09-12T19:40:00.000+03:00You went from 38 to 33 around the waist, I take it...You went from 38 to 33 around the waist, I take it.<BR/><BR/>Good stuff!<BR/><BR/>There is an easier way than day-in/day-out training: 8 week detox diet (no gimmicks or chemicals), topped off with a one day liver flush using olive oil and lemon juice.<BR/><BR/>Gave me an even greater decrease in size, and it really is a life changer. Helps you figure out how well your body can work. <BR/><BR/>Numerous benefits still in place four years later - it's not just about the waistline - with only daily walks for exercise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-90570898634548382832008-09-12T19:19:00.000+03:002008-09-12T19:19:00.000+03:00Avl, oops! My fist link was miss pasted- it should...Avl, oops! My fist link was miss pasted- it should have been <A HREF="http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/04/the-complexity.html#previouspost" REL="nofollow">this</A>.Thaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700253024420397221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-43289479253649999312008-09-12T18:02:00.000+03:002008-09-12T18:02:00.000+03:00Like crash diets, a strong exerise program usually...Like crash diets, a strong exerise program usually leads to injury and very dificult to maintain as we age. <BR/>Control your diet along with a walking program has the best longterm success for weight control.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-6839781561920509222008-09-12T17:47:00.000+03:002008-09-12T17:47:00.000+03:00Avl said "I think this would reveal that the debt ...Avl said "I think this would reveal that the debt burden is far from equally distributed, and that low-income households are less hobbled than families with children and working parents with college degrees". <BR/><BR/><B><I>"YES"</I></B> What a wonderful fractal hypothesis! (Finally someone on this website is <A HREF="http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/01/is-homosexualit.html#previouspost" REL="nofollow">thinking like a biologist</A>... my only significant criticism of Hell is his lack of understanding of most of the major advances in the field of <A>evolutionary biology and complexity science</A>). <BR/><BR/>Avl, my gut tells me you just might be correct: debt burden correlates STRONGLY with reproduction-procreation strategies in ALL complex evolutionary models I have ever read... In fact, come to think on it, complexity models show debt NEVER makes evolutionary sense <A HREF="http://books.google.com/books?id=eUoolrxSFy0C&pg=PA94&lpg=PA94&dq=sugarscape+procreation&source=web&ots=Sj-eGq7aWg&sig=-IPF7R04Y4JNhf1hGrN_eLFCyZc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result" REL="nofollow">except for the single situation of reproduction-procreation</A>...<BR/><BR/>I know <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Mother-Nature-Maternal-Instincts-Species/dp/0345408934" REL="nofollow">Sarah Hrdy</A> (truly one of the most interesting people to have ever walked this planet) has written extensively about these issues from an anthropologist's perspective.<BR/><BR/>You can pull up a ton of stuff on this if you simply browse the artificial life websites: <A HREF="http://surf.de.uu.net/zooland/" REL="nofollow">Zooland</A> is as good a starting point as any.Thaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700253024420397221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-75402805796073720602008-09-12T13:07:00.000+03:002008-09-12T13:07:00.000+03:00I forgot to add, Hell, that as per your comments a...I forgot to add, Hell, that as per your comments about bringing in your waist size, it sounds like you are preparing for the "lean times" ahead.Edwardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03613197383283896190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-81774461420886431402008-09-12T11:09:00.000+03:002008-09-12T11:09:00.000+03:00Congratulations on the weight loss program. I'm su...Congratulations on the weight loss program. I'm sure you feel a lot better for it.<BR/>I enjoy reading your posts, not least because I'm an engineer myself. Now I know why engineers have historically been 'discouraged' from professional involvement in things financial: we have a predisposition to point out the logical inconsistencies which seem to be required to make modern capitalism 'work'!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com