tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post2328134593028947430..comments2024-03-22T05:15:17.042+02:00Comments on Sudden Debt: Brave New WorldHellasioushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03564511281240682625noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-46654967255596821582008-10-22T17:34:00.000+03:002008-10-22T17:34:00.000+03:00I don't know if you're still reading the comments ...I don't know if you're still reading the comments on this post, so I will just say, put me down as a 100% ditto of what "dm" said.<BR/><BR/>I hope to read more of your observations in the future.Madam Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00136166772469538966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-52258687950023354882008-10-10T20:12:00.000+03:002008-10-10T20:12:00.000+03:00Anon above,You can't cut the defense budget if you...Anon above,<BR/>You can't cut the defense budget if your goal is world domination and subjugation of the masses, both foreign and domestic. Until Americans renounce and denounce global imperialism they will be condemned to increasing impoverishment. Guns vs Butter, take your choice.yoyomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357340275250708990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-41360192132226602842008-10-10T10:05:00.000+03:002008-10-10T10:05:00.000+03:00Now I think I see why they wanted to privatize Soc...Now I think I see why they wanted to privatize Social Security!<BR/>Looks like endgame to me...<BR/>I find it funny how noone has mentioned cutting the defense budget.<BR/>At a time when we need someone with stature to give us a fireside chat,give us some shred of hope...<BR/>The absolute worst thing to happen to a nation is to wipe out the middle class.Big mistake...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-31123054405926099192008-10-10T09:13:00.000+03:002008-10-10T09:13:00.000+03:00Put Paulson, Bush, Cox, KashKari and other assorte...Put Paulson, Bush, Cox, KashKari and other assorted scum into the same room with Mafia thugs who lost money in the mayhem. Lock the door. Tell 'em they get the keys when the crisis is over.<BR/><BR/>You will see how efficient old world solutions can be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-77588742370680073792008-10-10T06:20:00.000+03:002008-10-10T06:20:00.000+03:00There is absolutely no chance that the present uph...There is absolutely no chance that the present upheaval, upheaval such that millions of people are, as I write, becoming pauperized, will be followed by anything other than mayhem. And while I'm very aware of the power of self fulfilling prophecies, it is simply impossible for me to imagine how the next few years, at a minimum, will not represent the sort of times that are read about in centuries to come with absolute awe.<BR/><BR/>If that sounds like hyperbole, so be it. I wish you all the best of luck. We are all going to need it.Edwardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03613197383283896190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-47056422660099275442008-10-10T05:39:00.000+03:002008-10-10T05:39:00.000+03:00FYI on Today's Plunge.The Financial Times had ...FYI on Today's Plunge.<BR/><BR/>The Financial Times had a different take on what caused today's late-day plunge: <BR/><BR/>Paulson "ruled out a 'grand plan' for an international bail-out of the financial system," <BR/>[and] warned that the [$700B EESA] scheme and the half percentage point interest rate cuts in countries including the UK and the US would not be enough to prevent more financial institutions from imploding. <BR/>"One thing we must recognise: even with the new Treasury authorities, some financial institutions will fail," he said. "The EESA doesn't exist to save every financial institution for its own sake." Neither should investors expect a quick recovery in the markets, he added."<BR/><BR/>The FT's by-line: "More banks will fail in the weeks ahead despite dramatic moves by policymakers across the world to tackle the financial crisis, the US Treasury Secretary admitted last night."<BR/>-end<BR/><BR/>Paulson is speaking for Bush & Bernanke; this could set the stage for capitulation on the Street and, more importantly, for fessing up to America that 'Roubini-think' is right: let’s dismiss our false hopes & get to work on bunkering down and planning a recovery down the road. I still dont see why Paulson's comments weren’t carried domestically on Bloomberg, WSJ or NYT, or by the CNBC jabbering heads.<BR/>-Avl<BR/><BR/>Financial Crisis: Hank Paulson Warns of More Bank Failures.<BR/>By Edmund Conway in Washington BST 09 Oct 2008<BR/> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/3162002/Financial-Crisis-Hank-Paulson-warns-of-more-bank-failures.htmlAvl Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12298355297869341807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-52634274921512945632008-10-10T05:35:00.000+03:002008-10-10T05:35:00.000+03:00I think that what Hell sees (and me too), and per...I think that what Hell sees (and me too), and perhaps what Joe M. and the like-minded do not see, is that we are being force to - and should - strip away all the fluffy excesses of our economy sustained by financial wizardry and Wall Street mirrors...and start an environmentally & financially sustainable recovery with the hard physical assets that underpinned all that financial fluff and will remain with us. We then re-prioritize and re-allocate what also remains -the talents & skill sets of our workforce.<BR/>FIRE wizardry will not be a priority in this recovery as emphasized in today's blog.<BR/><BR/>The above can be done without folks falling back on the 'guns, gold, bullets, & pitchforks' routine. The above will take a chunk of time and be emotionally grueling for those least adaptive/flexible in their thinking and also those who still feel a sense of entitlement based on now-vanished FIRE economic hierarchies.<BR/><BR/>I doubt we’ll get federal leadership on this anytime soon...the drumbeat of change must come from the bottom and gain traction via local politics, local businesses and our community leaders (us). We must direct our federal leaders on this.Avl Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12298355297869341807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-67337298450673799292008-10-10T03:41:00.000+03:002008-10-10T03:41:00.000+03:00There is no question in my mind. We are headed in...There is no question in my mind. We are headed into bloody revolution. Period and Case Closed.<BR/><BR/>Joe M.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16005483996588605077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-17667794588885322312008-10-09T21:55:00.000+03:002008-10-09T21:55:00.000+03:00What an excellent post. I particularly like this.F...What an excellent post. <BR/><BR/>I particularly like this.<BR/><BR/><I>Finance as practised in the last 30 or so years has no place in this brave new world. There is no room - or any need whatsoever - for chop-and-shop LBO strippers, asset pumpers, market operators, derivatives designers, financial engineers... No, this gallery of rogues has seen the end of their days. Instead, relationship finance will fast make a comeback, if only because the manufacture and placement of unprovenanced securities to faceless "investors" is no longer possible. From now on real investors - the only ones still left standing - will ask for every detail and reason behind their potential investments.</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-37567815959801571792008-10-09T20:51:00.000+03:002008-10-09T20:51:00.000+03:00I hate to say it, but my gut instinct says we are ...I hate to say it, but my gut instinct says we are in deep, deep sh*t and it ends badly.<BR/><BR/>Bernanke and Paulson appear as deer looking into the headlights of a freight train.Annie and Lyon Jewetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16865720018668855717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-41971444969454836232008-10-09T20:30:00.000+03:002008-10-09T20:30:00.000+03:00"damn fine piece of writing that"I second that one..."damn fine piece of writing that"<BR/><BR/>I second that one. We are in a hole and they just keep digging. We are at debt saturation and throwing more debt at it will not work.<BR/><BR/>The only thing we have left to see is the market reset to it's mean. It is doing so now and will not stop until all bad debt gets washed out.<BR/><BR/>Great Depression II here we come. The problem is Americans have had it good for so long the readjustment is probably going to turn into bloody revolution.<BR/><BR/>Joe M.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16005483996588605077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-56767334771578278852008-10-09T18:17:00.000+03:002008-10-09T18:17:00.000+03:00Where do you see opportunity wise one? (no sarcasm...Where do you see opportunity wise one? (no sarcasm expressed or implied) <BR/><BR/>You're historical perspective and analogies have helped to keep focus on priorities and maintain hope in a shifting landscape.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-60826098656978503232008-10-09T17:47:00.000+03:002008-10-09T17:47:00.000+03:00We'll see how the next Administration handles this...We'll see how the next Administration handles this--transparency or darkness. <BR/><BR/>Do you have any doubt that under this administration there would just be a continuation of obfuscation and deceit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-25770924874717314912008-10-09T17:25:00.000+03:002008-10-09T17:25:00.000+03:00I remember all the pundits saying sometime ago tha...I remember all the pundits saying sometime ago that the US wouldn’t go through a protracted downturn like Japan because “American capitalism” would take the quick and necessary steps to deleverage. So much for that.camabronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024146459457965038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-33947370378632188072008-10-09T14:34:00.000+03:002008-10-09T14:34:00.000+03:00I am more cynical about our brave new world. We en...I am more cynical about our brave new world. We entered the second dark age about 20 years ago. Perhaps we are just realizing it now.<BR/><BR/>UN-enlightenment will prevail though as in the last dark age there will be technological advancement.<BR/><BR/>Now that the FIRE industry shams are coming home to roost how long will it be before higher education is unveiled for the farce it is?<BR/><BR/>Cheap research labor makes technological advancement and we use that as proof that undergraduate programs are successful. Change the meaning of eduction and education is fine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-51532895831843614002008-10-09T14:33:00.000+03:002008-10-09T14:33:00.000+03:00Generals prepare to fight the last war.Generals prepare to fight the last war.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-30379294349595089452008-10-09T14:19:00.000+03:002008-10-09T14:19:00.000+03:00Simply put the parasitical FIRE economy needs to s...Simply put the parasitical FIRE economy needs to shrink dramtically so as to allow resources to move into more productive activites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-46433065172020872242008-10-09T11:28:00.000+03:002008-10-09T11:28:00.000+03:00damn fine piece of writing thatdamn fine piece of writing thattooearlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06513358663917044513noreply@blogger.com