tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post3339810180120007342..comments2024-02-24T19:10:00.395+02:00Comments on Sudden Debt: Now Hear This: You Are Evicted From EdenHellasioushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03564511281240682625noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-53599480428017633972010-06-08T04:47:53.927+03:002010-06-08T04:47:53.927+03:00I have no words now other than to say how sad I am...I have no words now other than to say how sad I am. Please, Okie, if you think it's appropriate and would be appreciated, express my deepest condolences to Thai's family.Edwardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03613197383283896190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-92094978281675321982010-06-08T01:43:54.806+03:002010-06-08T01:43:54.806+03:00I've learned a lot interacting with Thai. Many...I've learned a lot interacting with Thai. Many times I was actually waiting for his answer, as one has a lot to learn from intelligent and insightful points view, especially if they are different.<br /><br />Sad and speechless.Tiagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09130634176057923895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-37661018715581918142010-06-08T01:09:14.819+03:002010-06-08T01:09:14.819+03:00OK. I was planning on writing something on Toby...OK. I was planning on writing something on Toby's and my blog.<br />Maybe somebody could check it, and see if they think it's appropriate for me to send to the family ?<br />Thanks in advance.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16482275995356476052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-15905655168595022812010-06-07T23:37:20.046+03:002010-06-07T23:37:20.046+03:00I'm sad.
MA/RHI'm sad.<br /><br />MA/RHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-53657171318629787392010-06-07T22:31:28.971+03:002010-06-07T22:31:28.971+03:00Let me pass on a note from the MEP facebook page:
...Let me pass on a note from the MEP facebook page:<br /><br /><i>The memorial service is being planned for the week of June 14th. Once a date is set I will notify you via email. I would like to compile a list of ‘Thai stories’ to present to the family. I know we all have at least one! Please send your stories to Shahana (SChaudhry@emergencydocs.com), and she will arrange them as a memory of Thai’s life.<br /><br />Angelo</i>OkieLawyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17071917464425173379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-50038901690663968742010-06-07T21:12:20.588+03:002010-06-07T21:12:20.588+03:00Thai's passing is more than a shock to me. S...Thai's passing is more than a shock to me. Some of you on this board may have realized that Thai and I had become personal friends and talked regularly on the phone as well as e-mailing each other (debating fractals and other issues constantly). I also consulted Thai regarding medical issues and knowledge and he was a great help.<br /><br />Perhaps we should prepare some statement for the funeral to be read to those in attendance to express our sympathy for the family and how much he meant to us?<br /><br />This is just unbelievable. I don't know quite what to say.OkieLawyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17071917464425173379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-56774862120338817562010-06-07T20:04:16.377+03:002010-06-07T20:04:16.377+03:00Thanks for the link, and the addresses, RKohn.
I&#...Thanks for the link, and the addresses, RKohn.<br />I'm in shock. It's unbelievable.<br />All I can say is that I'm really going to miss you, Thai...<br />Even if we wrangled every once in a while.Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510189619803992336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-72354987358471877902010-06-07T19:58:40.400+03:002010-06-07T19:58:40.400+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510189619803992336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-22453374737603373342010-06-07T17:28:13.112+03:002010-06-07T17:28:13.112+03:00It is with a very heavy heart that I wanted to let...It is with a very heavy heart that I wanted to let this community know that our friend Thai passed away this weekend after suffering a sudden severe heart attack. His commentary and insight will be deeply missed. <br /><br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/2d6xehgRKohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02379348908619195042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-60419900364355660092010-06-05T18:33:21.566+03:002010-06-05T18:33:21.566+03:00"Well, the Louisiana disaster is another remi..."Well, the Louisiana disaster is another reminder that Permagrowth is over and our days in Monetary Heaven are numbered.<br /><br />The big cash gusher the past 30 years for American middle class has been the Real Estate business which also has died but since it had become a religion the stories of its rebirth continue as data miners post various signals of its fledging return. <br />The idea that the RE market will return anytime now and begin anew to pour cash and unlimited appreciation upon those that practice homeownership has a religious flavor. The dead will awaken takes on new meaning in our modern economy no longer limited to just old religious mythology.Sonoma potterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03392852520498721344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-89793578598540875202010-06-05T14:10:35.166+03:002010-06-05T14:10:35.166+03:00Simplistic thinking is not going to get us out of ...Simplistic thinking is not going to get us out of this.<br />Diagnosing... multinationals and wall street traders with the P word will certainly boost those statistics way beyond the 2-3% of the population that the "scientific" (...) community apparently thinks is the norm. (And.. HOW do you diagnose countries and multinationals with the P word ? I don't understand, somehow. Maybe it looks good on paper, but...)<br />Personally.. i don't call that very scientific thinking by the way. Not according to my rather rigorous, (don't laugh) definition of the word "science". Vulgarization has tremendous drawbacks, in addition to its good points.<br />In the shrink domain, it allows John Q. Public to believe that he can ponderate a diagnosis just like Sigmund, and throw the vocabulary around too, as he pleases. (And the DSM tool, which looks like a car owner's manual, goes even further in gratifying such wishful thinking...)<br />Not many shrinks these days capable of producing diagnoses like Sigmund could, by the way. Could we possibly have... LOST some knowledge along the road of progress ??<br />And once we've diagnosed well beyond the 2-3% range, well, what's left to be done ?<br />MAYBE start wondering where the "P"'s are coming from ? OOPS, could they be a product of... the neoliberal CREED, for instance ?<br />I'm not going to pretend to have good answers to this one. But I AM going to say that we don't have the $$$$ to lock everybody up these days.<br />Unless we plan on turning our nations into one big prison system..<br />I say... that's no fun. <br />Gotta be another way. <br />Did you know that at the end of the 60's the federal government was considering a moratorium on all prison construction ?<br />Doesn't it make you wonder.. WHAT HAPPENED ??<br />On the "maligning the scientific community"...<br />There are... OTHER thought systems in the world besides the ones we see reported on in American mainstream media, for instance.<br />I think that the "scientific" community comprises individuals all over the planet, and that, at this time, (indeed at any time...) there is NO consensus on the meaning of the word "science". Different... scientists in different countries have different meanings for the word. Thank God...Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510189619803992336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-77088057238774729152010-06-05T07:07:30.054+03:002010-06-05T07:07:30.054+03:00All great cultures set a monument to themselves. P...All great cultures set a monument to themselves. Pyramides, Great Walls, St. Peter's Dome, etc.<br />We have an eternal oil well in the Gulf. Now that's something to be proud off. Well done everybody. I'll take my Escalade out in it s honor. 10 mpg baby!<br />God bless.<br />/sarcasm offyoskienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-43380865824097869042010-06-05T00:37:10.986+03:002010-06-05T00:37:10.986+03:00Debra,
I am with you on going after reasons.
But...Debra,<br /><br />I am with you on going after reasons.<br /><br />But...<br /><br />I do not think that the reasons for our resource predicament ("love" for consumption) will be solved in time. I.e. resource constraints will be upon us very soon.<br /><br />Therefore I think it is worthwhile to think on a plan B in addition to plan A. Plan A for me is to convince those around me that are better things in life than consumption and more money. Plan B is to be able to survive on a society of increased scarcity of resources when everybody around craves for more those resources.<br /><br />PS (to Debra) - Been reading Jung, I do not know if it is your thing or not. I am particularly interested in his bridging of psych and occult. Seems fun stuff.Tiagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09130634176057923895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-17678507379831679432010-06-04T23:31:02.198+03:002010-06-04T23:31:02.198+03:00Debra,
"MORE AND MORE will not do the trick....Debra,<br /><br />"MORE AND MORE will not do the trick."? And less so with less and less?<br /><br />You don't believe in chronic anti-social behavior?<br />You never met a person with no ability for empathy? One that is concerned with nothing but their own satisfaction. An individual that will kill for childish rage or compulsion.<br /><br />I have, and realize there are others --2-3%--of the population by various estimates. I need no further proof than my own experience and that from the maligned (by you) scientific community. <br /><br />Because you don't like categorizations does not deny their existence.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02016451012987484079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-21002433429080213062010-06-04T22:37:08.386+03:002010-06-04T22:37:08.386+03:00Mon ?
I trained as a shrink in France. I read a lo...Mon ?<br />I trained as a shrink in France. I read a lot of stuff to train as a shrink, and I also got practical, clinical experience.<br />I question our current categorizations of "mental illness" these days. Any kind of categorization is based on a theory of the human animal, and I DON'T agree with the theory that is behind our current categorizations. <br />American thought systems have managed to evacuate any premise of "unconscious" motivation for our behavior. ("Unconscious" motivation is NOT rational, but it is not because it is not rational that you can't understand it, by the way...)<br />They appear very.. simplistic and limited to me.<br />In SOME areas I like complexity. This is an area where I prefer complexity, for example. <br />In short, the "P" word you used is one that I avoid.<br />Aren't you being overly.. RATIONAL in the rationale used for watching over BP ?<br />If BP REALLY IS what is implied in that P word, then how is oversight going to do much to stop BP ?<br />Wouldn't it simply be an inititive for BP (with financial resources probably stripping those of an impoverished and much maligned government branch...) to just keep adding on to that smokescreen to outwit the regulators ? <br />WHAT'S GOING TO STOP BP ??<br />I don't see ANYTHING stopping BP, if this is truly the way the "game" works. <br />This is the same logic going on in the buildup of security all over the States, and Israël, too while we're at it...<br />WHERE'S IT GOING TO STOP ?<br />The only way it can stop is with a paradigm change. And a big attitude change too. MORE AND MORE will not do the trick.Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510189619803992336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-39720653820692866512010-06-04T21:58:51.527+03:002010-06-04T21:58:51.527+03:00Oh and Debra,
Oil as the cause will likely be wit...Oh and Debra,<br /><br />Oil as the cause will likely be with us a very long while. So while it is admirable to strive for alternative resources, the system of oil extraction and burning will be here long-term. Therefore it is prudent to have controls on the system.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02016451012987484079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-29130723721499784232010-06-04T20:51:55.635+03:002010-06-04T20:51:55.635+03:00Debra,
The cause? Greed? Ignorance? Psychopathy?
...Debra,<br /><br />The cause? Greed? Ignorance? Psychopathy?<br /><br />When you don't give extra scrutiny (oversight) to known psychopaths you will likely get more bad behavior. When you don't give extra scrutiny to corporations with known extraordinary safety violations you will likely get more bad behavior.<br /><br />Ignorance? If the people of the US knew the chances of the destruction caused by Deepwater Horizon do you think they would forgo the incremental extra oil injected into the world market?<br /><br />Greed? Don't we all have to be on guard about this negative drive? Should we always have counterbalancing incentives to mitigate greed?<br /><br />You care to list some of your causes?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02016451012987484079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-89692253550462746942010-06-04T20:47:43.629+03:002010-06-04T20:47:43.629+03:00Hi Hell... knowing what a Francophile you are, I ...Hi Hell... knowing what a Francophile you are, I have stuck down the lyrics for a nice little tidbit on my and Toby's blog.<br />Enjoy.Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510189619803992336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-11554068957659470292010-06-04T20:03:19.858+03:002010-06-04T20:03:19.858+03:00Mon, I agree with your last phrase.
But... WHY is ...Mon, I agree with your last phrase.<br />But... WHY is BP drilling in those waters ?<br />Could it have something to do with what we do when we fill up at the pump ? (Or do lots of other things too, by the way...)<br />I agree that BP has lots of power, and prestige, and money, etc etc. But BP HAS all of that for a REASON.<br />Treat the REASON, and THEN we'll see how much power BP has.<br />I believe in treating causes, Mon, and not trying to intervene way down the line with lots of measures that will be really much less effective.<br />All the rhetoric about regulation, and oversight is ALSO a smokescreen to divert our consciousness from the realization that we GOTTA kick the oil addiction before it takes us all down. If it isn't already too late...<br />Video cam surveillance may be "stupid" (I didn't say that, you did...) but it is certainly being done. And it is having a big effect on us, I think. AND on our civil liberties.Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510189619803992336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-2949167883338544862010-06-04T19:25:11.470+03:002010-06-04T19:25:11.470+03:00Debra,
"the video cams, the wiretapping, the...Debra,<br /><br />"the video cams, the wiretapping, the endless invasion of privacy ANONYMOUS tactics that the government(s) engage in..." is stupid and counterproductive. <br /><br />If you don't discriminate based on analysis of previous behavior and threat level you are libel to get hurt. <br /><br />A large oil company, with previous bad behavior for safety compliance, drilling at a one mile depth in a sensitive eco-system, needs more scrutiny than every individual walking past Times Square.<br /><br />Corporations are like people (at least our Supreme Court says so), and there are some bad actors out there. If you see behavior that appears to be psychopathic should that individual or corporation deserve a higher level of vigilance?<br /><br />This is besides the analysis that should of been done. Should anyone be drilling for oil at these depths with today's technology?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02016451012987484079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-79931147263752066842010-06-04T18:47:46.656+03:002010-06-04T18:47:46.656+03:00Debra:
"...Try again...." ....???
We a...Debra:<br /><br />"...Try again...." ....???<br /><br />We are envied by Satan, Gabriel, all the demons in Hell and all the angels in the Heavens..... Why try again...?<br /><br />Ciao,<br /><br />EconoliciousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-5566840003873224302010-06-04T15:52:59.626+03:002010-06-04T15:52:59.626+03:00This insightful analysis based on economic argumen...This insightful analysis based on economic arguments is far too rational for the public and politicians. BP dares to make money and it's their oil in the sea so they MUST be evil!CityReactionaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08705936901422152762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-18427092470667773432010-06-04T12:06:05.744+03:002010-06-04T12:06:05.744+03:00Mon, the video cams, the wiretapping, the endless ...Mon, the video cams, the wiretapping, the endless invasion of privacy ANONYMOUS tactics that the government(s) engage in in order to enforce law and order (for business as usual) go to show that we do indeed believe in... oversight and surveillance...<br />We believe in it a lot (for certain people, in any case...).<br />But I have often said here that when you tell people that man is a selfish animal that is only interested in looking out for number one, and when you hammer away at that... PROPAGANDA (oops, I meant... science) long enough, people will believe it, and then, well, you've got a big social problem on your hands because it's like... kinda expensive to stick a policeman behind EVERY citizen, or write a law for EVERY circumstance, too.<br />And WITH THOSE IDEAS, and in that context, I'm not exactly sure how far you're going to go with regulation either, while we're at it. Sure looks good on paper though.. I suppose it allows people to feel like they're doing something, and solving the problem.<br />Tiago, I left you comments on your blog, by the way...Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510189619803992336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-78579561853583630212010-06-04T07:16:38.983+03:002010-06-04T07:16:38.983+03:00The world is still entrenched in the permagrowth m...The world is still entrenched in the permagrowth mantra:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=16274363&fsrc=scn/tw/te/rss/pe" rel="nofollow">The deflation dilemma Rich countries must act to prevent prices from falling. That will cause problems for emerging economies</a>camabronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024146459457965038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4102429195693595750.post-2854328328259605342010-06-04T07:12:27.160+03:002010-06-04T07:12:27.160+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.camabronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024146459457965038noreply@blogger.com