According to the government, real GDP growth came in at a "greater than expected" 3.9% for 3Q2007. The key word here is REAL, i.e. inflation adjusted. Naturally, the lower the inflation figure used (the GDP deflator) to convert nominal dollars into "real" dollars, the higher the reported "real" GDP growth.
Nominal growth, in current dollars, was reported as 4.7% for the third quarter, versus 6.6% in the second quarter. In other words, the economy slowed down. But the government also reported that inflation for GDP purposes in the 3rd quarter was ... 0.77% annualized. No, that's not a typo. Incredulous? You should be, because that's the lowest GDP deflator figure since the third quarter of 1963. Yes, 45 years ago - see the chart below.
The last time inflation was reported to be this low Martin Luther King gave his "I have a dream" speech, the US had 15.000 troops in Vietnam (they still called them "advisors"), Lawrence of Arabia won the Oscars and The Beatles were becoming famous. Oh ... and Kennedy was shot.
The deflator supposedly collapsed (down from 4.2% in the first quarter and 2.6% for the second) while crude oil and food prices were zooming. C'mon.. who's kidding whom here? If we use the average of the first 6 months of 2007 as the deflator for the third quarter (3.4%), then reported "real" GDP growth would have been 4.7-3.4 = 1.3%. This provides a better picture of reality, in my estimation.
The last time inflation was reported to be this low Martin Luther King gave his "I have a dream" speech, the US had 15.000 troops in Vietnam (they still called them "advisors"), Lawrence of Arabia won the Oscars and The Beatles were becoming famous. Oh ... and Kennedy was shot.
The deflator supposedly collapsed (down from 4.2% in the first quarter and 2.6% for the second) while crude oil and food prices were zooming. C'mon.. who's kidding whom here? If we use the average of the first 6 months of 2007 as the deflator for the third quarter (3.4%), then reported "real" GDP growth would have been 4.7-3.4 = 1.3%. This provides a better picture of reality, in my estimation.
Dick Feynman said "You cannot cheat nature".
ReplyDeleteIt seems that someone is trying to cheat nature by telling that inflation is much lower that it really it. At some point nature will prevail and no statistical tricks can hide the facts.
The difference of course is that Feynman was talking about physical laws. Economic 'laws' and economic constructs have a significant variance from hard facts; they ride the fine balance between 'not specific enough' and 'too general'.
ReplyDeleteThat's not to say that economic principles are useless; they can indeed be used to predict some things some of the time. Normally when the train is roaring down the tunnel towards you and you say, "Hey! That looks like a train and we're in a tunnel with nowhere to run!"
From a marketwatch.com article...Can you say flawed methodology?
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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- As odd as it sounds, the government reported that inflation was at a four-decade low in the third quarter, primarily because import oil prices rose so much.
If you don't understand that, welcome to the confusing world of national income accounting, where up sometimes is down, and where sometimes one plus one can equal zero.
The simple explantion:
Because of the way the government counts and reports the numbers, real-life inflation was understated and growth was overstated.
The economy didn't really grow 3.9%, and inflation really wasn't 0.8%. The numbers aren't as good as they look.
The complicated explantion:
When reporting on gross domestic product, the government counts up all the economic activity in the country, including consumer spending, business and residential investment, and government spending and investment. Then it adds all the exports, and subtracts all the imports. The final total is gross domestic product.
The fact that imports are subtracted is an important detail, so remember it.
Of course, all this counting is done in current dollars, the kind you and I have in our pockets, the kind that lose value every day to inflation. In order to gauge how much of the increase in spending and investment during a quarter was due to real growth and how much to inflation, the government deflates the total number of dollars by its estimate for how much prices rose.
In the third quarter, the government estimated that current dollar spending and investment increased at a 4.7% annual rate. After subtracting 0.8% for inflation, the real growth rate was 3.9% in the third quarter. See full story.
How does the government estimate inflation? The same way it estimates growth, by looking at individual price changes for consumer spending, business and residential investment, and government spending. Then it adds the price changes for exports and subtracts the price changes for imports.
It subtacts import price changes. Remember that.
Sometimes the mechanical formula produces some "quirky, nonintuititive relationships," said Shelley Smith, who's in charge of figuring the price index for the government's Bureau of Economic Analysis.
Most of the time, the government's formula doesn't produce any weird numbers, because the mathematical quirks all cancel each other out. But in the just concluded third quarter, it did produce quirky numbers that don't accurately reflect reality, even though they are correct from an accounting point of view.
Imported crude oil prices rose from an average of about $69 a barrel in the second quarter to $75 in the third, but wholesale gasoline prices fell by about 10 cents to $2.07 a gallon. Imported prices for energy rose, but domestic prices didn't.
In the government's accounting, prices of imported goods rose at a 10.3% annual pace in the quarter, but that increase was subtracted when figuring the economy-wide price index. Import prices subtracted 1.3 percentage points from inflation in the third quarter. With domestic prices rising slower than they had previously, it was enough to push inflation to four-decade low of 0.8%.
The accounting is right. But it's not reality
The mind reels. Somebody, please remind me why I didn't go into bankruptcy law.
ReplyDeleteIt seems like we've entered the realm of cartoon physics -- like Wily Coyote we have run off the edge of the cliff and will keep going as long as we don't look down.
I love this blog and have lurked for a while reading comments and working my way through the archives. First class snark in the face of utter horror. I salute you!
This only a problem for those who live in the reality based community.
ReplyDeleteSo now our government is cooking the books ENRON style...figures.
ReplyDeleteAfter you exclude everything that went up in price you get an inflation figure close to zero, amazing how that works.
As Spock would say, "fascinating". You and Peter Schiff, see Safehaven.com have homed in on exactly the same fraudulent, nay, preposterous data regarding the GDP.
ReplyDeleteI'm reminded of the days leading up to the French Revolution, when the French government, in debt up to its eyeballs, conspire, via the machinations of its finance minister, Jacques Necker, to publicly post a document asserting that the nation's finances were balanced. it was, of course, a total, pardon my French, canard.
ballista,
ReplyDeleteSince neoclassical economics is incapable of dialectical analysis, it been proven wrong decade after decade, nevertheless I would also note that the problem hellasious refers to is not one of economics but of accounting methodology...That mainstream economists are, in the main, so willing to accept the results of such accounting speaks to their real function, that of idealogues.
Umm methinks that Occams KISS principle needs to be applied to GDP calcs.....
ReplyDeletekeep it simple stupid!
And they expect us t swallow these numbers without thinking about them? Unfortunately, the vast majority of sheeple out there do accept them without question. Thanks goodness the truth is getting out in this an many other blogs.
ReplyDeleteIf I was a skeptic I would have to say that alas they do not expect you to follow such numbers. I mean imagine, with a little education things could just get a little uncomfortable for some.
ReplyDeleteSo now that I got that out let me add to the chorus and congratulate you Hellacious on a fantastic resource for making sense of the financial situation that we have evolved. Thanks for making plain what otherwise is hidden in obscurity.
That was obviously supposed to have saif "If I was a cynic ... " Appologies.
ReplyDeleteEva Peron said...
ReplyDeleteThe mind reels. Somebody, please remind me why I didn't go into bankruptcy law.
Trust me, Eva, you don't want to go there. You just think you do.
Keep up the good work...thank you for your contributions. That was the best rationalization of what is going on. It's tough to get 3.9% when Bill Zollers concludes we could be in recession NOW.
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